No matter what a man does, he cannot improve his physical attractiveness, his personality or his interactions with women. If he wants to get a girlfriend and he’s never had any luck, he should join some hobby clubs. This will automatically fix the issues with his social skills that he has had for 20+ or 30+ years.
Can you believe this shit both men and women are pedalling? I am not exaggerating any of this. Read this Jezebel post and the comments underneath to see it in reality.
When it comes down to it, anything that’s being done by one person can be learned by another. Hence why learning to be successful with women is a skill that can be learned. Just as you an study the best minds to learn the theory to become a better architect/economist/etc, you can become better with women. Saying that you can’t learn this is akin to saying that every interaction you have with a woman has a predetermined outcome. It doesn’t matter what you say, how you act or what you do. It can’t change.
What a moronic thing to say. As Heartiste recently explained:
If you break down the game of Naturals, you’ll learn that their maneuvers and tactics and strategies, far from being indefinable essences that only a very few lucky can lay claim to, are in fact identical to the blueprints of learned game.
For those who say it’s impossible to improve your attractiveness, let’s break down the categories one at a time.
1) Physical Attractiveness
One of my first posts months ago was about men could improve their attractiveness. Don’t be fat. Get muscular. Whiten your teeth. Improve your skin. Improve your posture. Wear nice, well-fitted clothes. Work on your eye contact.
What’s that I hear the anti-game mob screaming? None of this counts as game?
Morons. Of course it does. Why do they only want fat slobs to be the ones who are trying (and failing) to improve their appeal to women?
Any woman can improve her attractiveness to the opposite sex. Hence why they spend so much time doing their hair, makeup, perfecting their outfits etc. Guess what. Men can look better as well. Not like one whinger on Jezebel who wrote “the money you spend on a dating coach or becoming more hygienic/better dressed will not make you look physically better. Only plastic surgery can do that.” What a load of shit. Have a look at these TV-show transformations and tell me only plastic surgery makes you look physically better.
A lot of the Manosphere covers working out because of the impact it has on your attractiveness to women, as well as the way it makes you feel about yourself. Check out the fitness section at Nexxt Level Up for some good recent stuff.
2) Personality Attractiveness
A man who works on himself will become a far more interesting person to women. Can anyone seriously disagree with this? I’ve written about how to do this. Read. Travel. Study. Grow and develop.
What’s that, I hear the anti-game mob screaming. This doesn’t count as game?
Of course it does. Morons. It’s part of improving your attractiveness to women.
What’s that you protest? You shouldn’t do things just to try and attract women? Well why the hell not? Good on your for adding value to the world and your personal life with whatever thing you’re doing. Sure beats sitting at home watching TV for hours on end and wasting away your life.
3) Interactions With Women
A lot of anti-gamers scream that you can’t improve your interactions with women.
Morons. Why the hell not?
It is widely recognised that:
- You can improve your interactions with people generally- How To Win Friends and Influence People.
- You can improve your interactions with people in your workplace – 7 Habits of Highly Effective People.
- You can improve your interactions with your spouse- Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus.
So you can improve your relationship with absolutely anyone except for when you’re dating? Give me a break. Morons.
Even when I recounted the story on Jezebel about how a bootcamp made me go from having kissed one girl in a club in my entire life to 6 in one night, a guy said that didn’t count. You can’t please some people.
I’ve shared part of my own story about how dating coaching has helped me, and also shared stories about my students. The woman who writes Woman and the Dragon posts another story by a guy on exactly how much dating coaching helped him:
I signed up for a one week live in class with PUATraining in Austin, TX. It has been liberating to say the least. To know what I am doing in any human interaction is a gift from God himself, but especially to be able to guide the direction of a conversation with a woman so that it is a win/win situation for both of us. It is empowering in a way that words can’t describe for a guy who oozed Beta like a lesion on the skin.
You can enhance your physical attractiveness, your personality, and your interactions with women. If you have doubted this up to now, it’s time to change your perspective.
Grown up, mature people would do well to heed the words of Keynes, who said:
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do sir?
If you’ve been pedalling the line that game doesn’t work, it’s time to be mature. Acknowledge that it can improve men and benefit their relationships with women and change your opinion.
Update: Heartiste on the matter.
Update 2: Krauser is living proof that this stuff works.
When I hear “game doesn’t work,” it tells me that the speaker hasn’t read and practiced enough. If you think that game is a set of canned lines and rote behaviors, you’re right. That doesn’t work. If you think that game is a guarantee that you will be able to land one PARTICULAR woman, you’re right. That doesn’t work.
“Game” is a huge, overarching generalization for being a mature, adult male. When you buy a new, tailored suit, you’re “upping your game.” When you lose ten pounds, you are upping your game.
It’s not enough to read the manuals and put on a mask. You actually have to embrace the changes and make them a part of who you are.
All men have Game. The question is, is it good game, or bad game?
Knowledge is power… It is as simple as that – you can always learn how to achieve your goals. it just takes time, effort, and hard work. Women are easy to get – if you stop listening to the tripe and concentrate on what works.
Now I’m a lot older than most – and first I heard of “Game” was via the book, and when I was reading it, I was laughing. Why? Because it was saying clearly what I had had to learn on my own via observation, and trial and error. And it works. Not only with women, but in life. I have used the skills I learned of reading body-language, and understanding human psychology to my benefit. Now I have a degree in arguably one of the most difficult areas of human study – so I broke things down, did tests, trails, experiments and learned. I spent a couple of years learning and improving my techniques – it works… Your appearance and such is your raw material – but you can improve things if you know what works….
That is what Game is – a series of things that have worked. You have to find what works for you and improve it. Then your life will be MUCH easier… Just like having a Doctorate means you know more than the average person, so knowing Game means you’ll be ahead of the curve… Use it like you would any skill – that is all it is…
Yeah, i get tired of hearing guys saying it’s all smoke and mirrors and shit. Game at it’s core is a tool for changing your life for the better. Openers/negs, etc… that’s peripheral shit used to pick up mostly emotionally broken chicks. “GAME” is about removing the things that get you disqualified first and foremost, and building confidence in yourself.
You know what GAME can actually be called? Personal Growth under the trappings of trying to garner a relationship. It means taking responsibility for yourself, your looks, your attitude. It means getting off the couch and becoming more fit. It means stop crying about how the world wont bend to love you, make yourself worthy of love and you don’t have to bend the world, it will bend to you.
I need to finish up my critics of game prt 2 post. A linkage to this post will be valuable. Good stuff!
Any man stupid enough to take relationship and dating advice from Jezebel deserves whatever he gets (which is to say, probably nothing).
“Saying that you can’t learn this is akin to saying that every interaction you have with a woman has a predetermined outcome. It doesn’t matter what you say, how you act or what you do. It can’t change.”
Usually when someone wants to learn to do something better, they’ll be told to learn the skill from someone who’s very successful at it. It’s funny how inter-gender relationships and attracting women seems to be the only exception to the rule.
If a young man wants to become a big league pitcher, he’ll be told to study and emulate the throwing and training habits of successful major leaguers. If he wants to learn how to write computer programs he’ll be told to go to university and study under someone who has years of experience writing good, stable code. If he wants to become a doctor he’ll be told to go to medical school, where he will read journals written by experienced, brilliant physicians. If he wants to learn martial arts he might be told to go to a nearby dojo and learn from a black belt expert.
But when it comes to handling relationships with the opposite sex and seducing women, I guess instinct is all he needs, right? “Just be yourself” and it will all work out…. eventually… right? Right???
“And whatever you do, pay no attention to the guys who are seducing women left and right, and getting laid like tile! Don’t listen to them! They have nothing to teach you!”
Fascinating really.
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Game doesn’t work?!?!?!
Not only does it work with women…I’ve found it works everywhere else.
I’ve become a better leader at work, I’ve learned to take charge in conversations…men, women, doesn’t matter. I take risks. Instead of being afraid of the world…I go out and have fun. Instead of waiting for people to bring me something…I go out and find it. My attitude has taken a 180. I stand up for what I believe in. I don’t take anybody’s BS. My interaction with my parents has even improved.
If these losers think game only applies to success/failure with picking up women…they haven’t seen the forest from the trees. If anything…game teaches you that ACTION is the key and not REACTION.
My friend went from a fat whinny omega who women wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole (true AFC virgin) to a balls to the wall alpha with a high double digit notch count in the space of several years.
After a couple of cycles of roids, a little HGH, a lot of gym work and a gig as a bouncer, he even got two ex lays promising to break off their engagements if he’d be with them.
Yeh, I call bullshit to the nay Sayers.
A quote from the Cosmo comment they excerpted ….
“Um…I don’t know how I feel about this? It’s always nice to get a compliment but my initial reaction when guys do this is kthxbai! I’m always in a hurry and generally speaking the average guy who walks up to me is not going to have a lot in common with me.”
Wouldn’t average people, by the law of averages, have similar interests? Therefore, she can’t think of herself as remotely average. That’s so…. common.
@M3
I know u know cuz I see u on her comments…the post you reference on The Woman and the Dragon has a commenter with an interesting take on this.
SSM and I told him to fire his therapist and get some game if he wants more sex from his wife. For once, someone took the advice. And behold, it worked:
“It’s like our marriage just started…”
Praise Jesus, pass the ammunition.
Haters gonna hate though. Game is like anything else. It works if you believe it works (a pre-req to doing it and making it work).
Rarely does someone know about game, intellectually reject it, then stumble upon its effectiveness anyway. This happened to me and my college roomie in Vegas.
His wife was teasing him that after ten years it was time for him to “hook up” while he was in Vegas for our boys reunion. He has no game, however u define it but he reads my blog so he knows what it is. And he doesn’t approve.
In Vegas, he actually had a little luck (thx to having an awesome wing, mind u).
He texts the wife some anecdotes (all harmless interactions) and he was shocked how wet the panties got via text. He was like, damn, this social proof stuff is the real deal. I’m gonna use this when I get back home.
Doubting Thomas no more…
when i first started this whole sphere crap i was told by yohami and badger i’m a natural, and it never made sense to me. i don’t see it as “game”. i see it as beinf a guy people WANT to be around.
a woman doesn’t see me and lust over me. after i i decide if she cool or not, i’ll pursue or not. i KNOW just by seeing her whether or not i’m attracted.
for women it’s the opposite. they remain attraction neutral and build attraction based on your personality. trust me, there’s NO way i should have been inside some of the women i’ve been in.
I think it might be time for me to pull a Mentu.
Thank you all for contributing to this post, appreciate your thoughtful comments.
Whenever I hear a woman whining about game I think how can a woman possibly know what works and what doesn’t when it comes to approaching women? Has Lindy ever been romantically or sexually interested in a woman and tried to win her over? Every guy who’s approached but ONE woman in his whole life has more experience and credibility than her in this matter… But hamsters don’t care about credibility, do they?
And then the evergreen “Women hate it”. Reeeally? As in ALL women? Solipsism at its best. I tried to comment at Jizzherbutt but it wasn’t posted.
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Why would any man imagine that women on an extreme left-wing feminist website have mens best interests at heart?
That whole article basically says: ” Women are mysterious and unknowable beings, who average guys have no chance with, so don’t even try.” To which I’d reply: “if I wanted to learn to play the piano, I’d get a good piano teacher rather than just hope I could learn to play by intuition.” Sure, there are charlatans out there but there are in every walk of life.
Oh, and BTW, if women think people can’t ever change their lives by learning from others, why do they buy all those self-help books?