Manosphere: Virginity vs Sluttery (Part 2)

1. Alpha Game writes that if she’s slept around, She’s Probably Had Better in the Sack:

Many unmarried young women with an N count greater than one or two will argue vociferously that their N doesn’t matter and should not be taken into account by men who are considering them as potential wives. But the reality is that the known male distaste for seconds, or twentieths, as the case may be, is well-justified in terms of an increased probability of future infidelity as well as the fact that his wife will likely compare him unfavorably to one or more of her previous lovers:

Many women are looking back with longing on past relationships, admitting sex was better with their ex than their current partner. 53 percent of all married women with previous sexual experience had the best sex of their lives in a previous relationship. And obviously, the higher her N, the greater the possibility that this is the case. So, if you’ve married a woman who wasn’t a virgin, there is a one-in-two chance that she’s fantasizing about her past lovers. And the more experience she’s had, the more likely that is the case.

2. Dalrock writes about how sexual experience is one of the things negatively impacting on marriage:

Feminists and their enablers have slowly shaved off the value of marriage for men. Marriage for men no longer means:

  • Being the legally and socially recognized head of the household.
  • An expectation of regular sex.
  • Legal rights to children.
  • Lifetime commitment.

As each new bit has been shaved away, men have had the choice of either accepting debased marriage at face value or walking away…

There’s just one more small thing. It took her so long to find you that you can’t reasonably expect her chastity to be perfectly in tact. I mean, it’s mostly there, but it suffered a ding or two. Her virginity was gone to her first boyfriend, but don’t worry it was very romantic and she still has fond memories of that special time. Not too long after that those jerks at the frat house did a number on her pride, but you can’t hold that against her. She’s a bright gal, and after that she learned how to hook up smart. There were, I think, a few other clips along the way. Nothing too serious, but after all remember it did take her forever to find you. Your little bird may not be quite as young and innocent as she would have been had she found you sooner, but there is always hope.

3. Heartiste writes about how you should respond to sluts:

Some readers are under the mistaken impression that my posts about slutty women and the deleterious effects they have on society and marital/LTR stability must mean that I conduct my dating life with a stern judgmental attitude toward women and with the goal of flushing out sluts from my pool of prospects.

Nothing could be further from the truth. I will conceal my true feelings when concealing them is personally advantageous. No way no how am I getting the play I do if I decide to accost every girl I date for a spreadsheet of her sexual history. Real life doesn’t work that way. I want to disable women’s anti-slut defenses, not power them up. I don’t know about you, but when I date, my idea of a successful close is the opposite of the girl clamping her legs shut.

Now, if I am in the market for a long-term girlfriend, I will, post haste, covertly judge my dates for their sexual modesty, and screen out those women who strike me as being world class cock consumers. This, too, is to my personal advantage, for the chronic slut is a potential cheating risk, not to mention a barrel of drama queen laughs that gets tiresome sooner rather than later.

4. A guy pours his heart out explaining how he’s haunted by his girlfriend’s sexual history:

About 6 months into the relationship, two things started happening. Firstly, my feelings for her were developing rapidly. She was (and still is) the most perfect girl I have ever met. Funny, makes massive effort to always keep me smiling, intelligent, good looking, lovely family who really admire me and are happy that their little girl is dating me (our families know each other well too, by coincidence). I can honestly say it is a perfect scenario.

The second thing that started happening was my massive distaste and anger due to the past. She noticed I was getting depressed, and finally it came out in the open. She was shocked and felt terrible. Now, 6 months after the revelation, I am completely hot-cold with her… I can’t explain how I feel on it all. I am terribly depressed. I cant see a future without this girl, but I can’t see one WITH her…

3MM: Your prior sexual history DOES have an impact on your future partner.

5. M3 explains why sluts make poor life partners:

If she frequently changes jobs, has a spotty work record, and has made a habit of quitting and getting a new job somewhere else, doing jobs that have nothing to do with her work qualifications (fucking bad boys who are terrible father material) and are detrimental to the line of work she aspires for (a lifetime stable partnership to raise a child).. she is showing the next prospective employer that her ability to make HIS company grow, and HER ability to be reliable.. are seriously in fucking doubt. HR has to spend a lot of time, effort and resources to train a new employee and bring her up to speed for the task at hand.. to become VP and grow a bigger, stronger company. So it screens effectively against the background and past actions of the applicant to see if it is worth the companies time to mold them into and effective and productive employee or cut them loose as a flight risk before the probationary period expires.

I don’t know about you, but i wouldn’t fucking hire a woman who’s had 43 different jobs in the last 2 years and is sitting in front of me at the desk saying they hope to be a lifer at my company. In the working world we value steady employment over sporadic and intermittent work period that resemble the scatter shot pattern of a shotgun round. The longer the work period, the more trustworthy that person will stick around and not jump ship to the headhunting employer that comes around offering it’s 30 pieces of silver in hopes of taking away what you thought was an asset and sunk so much time and effort into. Nobody wants to invest and train a jumpship employee.

This is why we men have such a differentiating standard between AMOUNT OF SEX vs. AMOUNT OF PARTNERS. If you had 1 prior partner and fucked him everyday for 5 years before you broke up mutually and came across me, you’d have been fucked 1,822 times! (I added in 2 days for leap years). Guess what.. NOT A SLUT. If you had 50 partners in 5 years, and fucked them only once, that would mean you had sex 1,722 times less than the lady above but guess what… YOU’RE A SLUT.

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58 Responses to Manosphere: Virginity vs Sluttery (Part 2)

  1. M3

    I just realized i can’t do math. epic math fail lol.

    Thanks for the linkage!

    • That was a very good and observant point – ill have to check out the entire post.

      Also, it’s pretty accurate. That a persons (male or female I’m assuming you were referring to, not sure though) career history is indicative of their relationship history and future. 

      Mine is, almost point for point. I have been loyal to my employers, but still searching for my “career calling” and therefore purposely took roles that either were time stamped (year term internships, jobs that were obviously going nowhere and they knew I would leave once I finished grad school).

      I have been the same with men. I am loyal, remember and honestly hold some esteem for every guy I’ve been with. Whether it was a fling or  a more long term dating thing, however, I also chose men and situations that were time stamped. I wasn’t ready. I also didn’t want to be alone, and I needed to learn – NOT about SEX (I think there is no such thing as sexual training… Like there That was a very good and observant point – ill have to check out the entire post.

      Also, it’s pretty accurate. That a persons (male or female I’m assuming you were referring to, not sure though) career history is indicative of their relationship history and future. 

      Mine is, almost point for point. I have been loyal to my employers, but still searching for my “career calling” and therefore purposely took roles that either were time stamped (year term internships, jobs that were obviously going nowhere and they knew I would leave once I finished grad school).

      I have been the same with men. I am loyal, remember and honestly hold some esteem for every guy I’ve been with. Whether it was a fling or  a more long term dating thing, however, I also chose men and situations that were time stamped. I wasn’t ready. I also didn’t want to be alone, and I needed to learn – NOT about SEX (I think there is no such thing as sexual training… Like there are some technical aspects, which btw u can read about in about 1000 cosmo articles, but really, it’s how a couple responds to each other – I’ve been good w some and not as good w others, it’s chemistry, not practice makes perfect).

      So it makes sense that NOW, simultaneously I want both a stable gig and a long term relationship.

      Hey dating is like = to interviewing. The correlation makes sense!

  2. taterearl

    “As each new bit has been shaved away, men have had the choice of either accepting debased marriage at face value or walking away…”

    Neither sounds like a good option…but at least men can handle not getting married better than women.

    Better to be alone and happy, than married to a recovering cum dumpster who makes your life a living hell.

  3. Wow. The comment section of #4 is full of WKs/Manginas.

    Also, Oneitis does horrible things to a guy’s mind. It literally has him divided against himself. He can’t do the right thing and move on, but he can’t get over the very natural disgust he is experiencing from the thoughts in his head.

  4. deti

    ar: Re #4, the only thing worse than the comments section is the advice, which is always the same:

    Get a grip. You don’t get to decide her sexual history. She has a right to a life before you. Sure, a fucked up previous life, but a life nonetheless. How dare you judge her! Sex before marriage ain’t no big deal anymore.

  5. Does anyone want to take a stab at what actually happens when men and women marry only have 1 or 2 people in the bed previously? I don’t need to spell it out. I’m sure you can guess.

  6. Just some of my own thoughts here. How many men are actually going to marry the inexperienced women who they have to teach everything in the bed? If he wants a “lady in the street, freak in the sheets” as they say…um she’s going to have to gain experience somewhere, otherwise you will find yourself doing ALL of the work on honeymoon night. That will be fun, huh?

    Since women are dominate in the college degree area, they are on the rise of successful careers, which is pushing back the age and priority of marriage. Women are starting to want to wait later to get married and have kids to establish a good education and a career they can support themselves and their family on.

    If a woman (or man) sleeps with 1 or 100 partners, it doesn’t automatically mean the one they choose to marry is less special to them because of their past.

    I see statistics here and there that somewhat pertain to the conclusions that are trying to be drawn, but the conclusions drawn from these that less partners equals better bond in marriage is quite pushing the envelope, here. It’s a real stretch, I just don’t know why this hasn’t been pointed out before.

    • P1. Every man on this planet would rather his wife learn from him than from having gobbled dozens of other mens’ penises. You clearly have no understanding of men if you believe otherwise. Not everything is to be ‘taught’ in one night. I’m not sure if you’re just trolling here.

      P2. Yes they are pushing back. This has real implications for female fertility and for the quality of men women will be able to get if they leave it too late. See my Top 10 Posts for Women.

      P3. Yes it does become less special. Go read the post again. I’m not going to waste time explaining to you why when you’re not offering anything other than being offended that your appeal to men has lessened because you’ve slept around.

      P4. See the Part 1 edition of this post for the evidence you’re after.

    • taterearl

      You make sex sound like it’s studying organic chemistry or rocket science.

      I’ve never had a Filet Mignon…but if one came across my path, I’m pretty sure I know how to eat it. Sex is more instinctual than anything…society and the media has just muddied it up into almost a religion.

      And who cares if the man does all the work…we have to do most of the work when it comes to everything else.

    • “we have to do most of the work when it comes to everything else.”

      RIP

  7. Every man on the planet? When did this survey take place? It was just a thought that occurred to me. If a man wants a woman who has a low partner count, that is his absolute right. He should get what he wants. However, it would be unfair if he didn’t offer the same courtesy to his future wife.

    I keep hearing this warning to women, “Don’t wait! Your biological clock is ticking! Your looks are diminishing! You can’t have children forever!” Partially true, but also a commonly used and prehistoric tactic to scaring women into commitments before they are ready. Too many women of our past have been tricked into this only to lead unhappy lives being stuck in unhappy marriages with children they can neither afford or emotionally care for, all because they were rushed. I’m so glad women are waiting these days.

    It’s also sad to me how a woman’s appearance seems to be the center of her value to a man. At least based on what I often read around this circle. This says a great deal.

    Also, women aren’t the only ones whose biological clocks are ticking. Why does no one around here point out the fact that many men also “let themselves go,” become undesirable to women just as they are starting to reach their sexual peak… And then that’s where men start to reach and age where they stop being able to get it up.

    • taterearl

      “However, it would be unfair if he didn’t offer the same courtesy to his future wife. ”

      Do men long for the pussies they slayed…not really, they long for the ones they haven’t. Women however compare everything…especially if you don’t measure up.

      “It’s also sad to me how a woman’s appearance seems to be the center of her value to a man. ”

      It’s also sad how a man’s attitude is the center of his value to a woman. Unless you’ve started putting out for your orbiters.

      “Why does no one around here point out the fact that many men also “let themselves go,” become undesirable to women just as they are starting to reach their sexual peak”

      Most of these blogs teach men how to not let themselves go…but it’s more to do with their attitude than looks. And most men can get it up in advanced years if the woman is attractive.

    • An attractive woman can cure a man of a true medical problem of the lower region just as well as she can cure him of cancer.

    • Ashley, I have provided scientific facts and information from doctors about female fertility. All you offer is your made up ideas and personal grievances. Nobody cares about your made up opinions, because they aren’t grounded in reality.
      3rdmilleniummen.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/the-cold-hard-facts-on-female-fertility/

    • I read it and I see right through it. You are using facts to support your should woulda coulda opinions on women. Do you think everyone cares about what you think?

      You think I’m offended. You so offended by women living the life they want to live. You can’t stand it, so you try to change it. Good luck.

    • If you keep coming to this blog you clearly do.

      Stop trolling.

    • If I were trolling, I’d be doing a better job than this.

    • Ashley a couple of days ago you wrote in regards to my post why men and women shouldn’t wait too long to have kids:

      I’d say this this good … they should keep in mind that they don’t gave forever

      You can’t have it both ways!

    • Yes, they should keep it in mind, but not live and center their existence by it.

    • Women can live however they want to live…but don’t cry about the consequences. Have you ever thought that maybe us men care about your well being and are actually trying to help you? Feminism has done a good job of destroying women through lies.

      Keep in mind men can also live however they want to live…most don’t want to risk everything on a whore.

    • To their defense, it is mentioned that both the quality, quantity and speed of sperm (not to mention sex drive) – overall virility declines in men with age too.

      So it is something that is recognized here.

  8. “Have you ever thought that maybe us men care about your well being and are actually trying to help you?”

    If that is true, do you really think shaming, blaming, and casting judgement is the way to help?

    • Yes…my dad shamed, blamed, and cast judgment on my when I did stupid stuff as a kid. Probably because he loved me and wanted the best out of me.

      Or you could let reality do it for you.

    • The more and more I read posts from the manosphere, the more and more I am convinced that the shame comes from hate, not love. I’m not sure if you think calling women “worthless, cunt, cumdumspter” and a laundry list of other derogatory names and slurs… is out of love, but I know better than that, and I think you do too.

      Shame, blame, and judgement in the case I am referring to doesn’t come from love, but the opposite.

      It is a parent’s obligation to teach their own children (and only their own children, not anyone else’s children and certainly not other adults) from right and wrong, in a loving way that does not make them feel wrong, or bad about themselves. Their teachings from love are supportive, encouraging, and emotionally building.

      The shame in which much of the manosphere (from what I have read) and much of society in general places on women does not do this. Now, I don’t know what the end goal of anti-feminism and slut shamers are…but if it is to stop women from being slutty, they are failing. They aren’t teaching anything effectively.

  9. “3MM: Your prior sexual history DOES have an impact on your future partner.”

    Absolutely. Couldn’t agree more. Yet… You seem to be glossing over that this very much applies both ways. Perhaps I missed something in this or a previous post, but it’s worth pointing out that in developing a close, caring, intimate partnership, a man’s permissive sexual history is troubling to women, too (troubling/upsetting/hurtful… not sure how to put it). Personal anecdote: I’m aware that my boyfriend slept around quite a bit before we met — With bartenders, sorority chicks, randoms, whatever. Now about 1.5 years into our relationship, the more I care about him and making things work with us, the more it pains me to think about. It may be different than the male version, but it definitely hurts in a way I’m not sure how to process. I don’t wish that he had been a total virgin, but I do hate the thought that somehow such a history may take away from my ability to make him happy, or that those escapades make whatever we do less … special?

    Anyway, there’s quite a bit of talk about sexual conquests etc on this site (and generally the replies on to your posts indicate that men are attempting getting laid as much as possible), all along side talk of then someday finding a girl to go the long haul with… Just sayin, you might want to consider that it all could someday affect her feelings for you, too.

    • This is superb insight Anna. I’ve written in other posts that ideally men and women should both be virgins prior to marriage. I remember a female telling me how hard it was that her husband had been married previously, and how insecure it made her feel that he had sex with his former wife. It was upsetting/hurtful as you say, even though he was completely committed to her.

      In reality yes it’s very hard not to sleep around when our society encourages and normalises it. Yes I’ve had some of the most incredible experiences of my life with women, as I’ve written about. I’m well aware this could cause a girl pain in future when I want to settle down with her.

      A number of female commenters have written on my posts that they feel like there’s something wrong with them because they’re in their mid-late twenties and still waiting for their husband. It’s been positive being able to reassure them that there is nothing wrong with them!

    • With the way the oxytocin other bonding hormones is wired in women they fare worse when they sleep around then men.

  10. Couple things.

    Well I don’t agree for myself personally. However, this doesn’t make it not the case for other women.

    I would have been happy to only have slept w one guy if I’d met him when I was 18-25 but I didn’t. So, I slept around a bit. But every last time never takes away the magnitude or “specialness” of the next time. Like I said that’s just me.

    Lying. Women lie. When they meet someone they see as future hubby material they can change from Sara suck-a-cock to Suzie the happy homemaker wo U ever knowing the other existed. Again, this is not applicable to all women but for moderately intelligent, multi faceted women, we all have different aspects, different personas for different situations, dating is no different.

    I know girls that have told their now husband who they have dated for 6 years, married for 2, have babies that they slept with 4 men when it was more like 24.

    They are perfectly happy, have no interest in other men. Are good wives and mothers, often work in “feminine” roles like teachers or social workers. I personally don’t know if I could outright lie. I prefer relationships where you keep the past in the past.

    Lastly, just as a student (with a masters) of public health and psychology. Studies show of all health and behavioral factors (ie smoker, fitness, seatbelt wearing, coping with stress etc) marriage is the biggest indicator of lifespan AND quality of life.

    Married people in general live longer happier lives AND yes there is a marked increase in males especially. Like they get. 7-10 extra years, women get 3-4. This is for a lot of reasons one simply being that there is someone that can notice health issues or changes in you before u do (like that mole on your ass tbat turned from brown to raised and black). Also, men tend to not on their own go to doctors as often, and a partner helps self monitor – if single u r more likely to go home order a pizza and drink a 12-pack than if married. This is obviously a gross assessment but in terms of American health at least, marriage extends lifespan in men and women but more years for men,

    A good friend would prolly have a similar affect

    • “Lying. Women lie. When they meet someone they see as future hubby material they can change from Sara suck-a-cock to Suzie the happy homemaker wo U ever knowing the other existed”

      Haha classic!!!

    • “marriage is the biggest indicator of lifespan AND quality of life. Married people in general live longer happier lives AND yes there is a marked increase in males especially. Like they get. 7-10 extra years, women get 3-4″

      I keep maintaining and emphasising the importance of marriage, when 90% of the Manosphere is against it. Thanks for bringing these additional points to our attention.

    • Re: marriage and health, it seems like some aspects of what you’re saying has been supported, but it’s not all cut and dry — marriage per se might not be responsible for some of the improved outcomes reported, and when comparing it’s benefits to deleterious effects of other behaviors… It’s been indicated that the stress of a poor marriage leads to equal or even worse cardiovascular damage than smoking etc. Anyway. You might be interested in a semi-recent DHHS summary: The Effects of Marriage on Health: A Synthesis of Recent Research Evidence http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/07/marriageonhealth/index.htm

    • M3

      I like the way Anna thinks!

      Marriage in today’s climate is to risky and to archaic. I recognise what it was meant to accomplish in the past but it doesn’t work in this age. Not with the rules in play as they stand. Change the rules and I’ll reconsider my Tone. Until then, I’ll enjoy my stress free life and health benefits of not working myself into an early grave. :)

  11. “Lying. Women lie.”

    A very truthful statement.

    “But every last time never takes away the magnitude or “specialness” of the next time. ”

    Be sure to tell your future husband that….I’m sure that will comfort him.

    • Like I said, ideally, I’d like to keep both our sexual histories in the past (at least for the first 25-30 years).

      That way no comforting is needed. Think about the person you are dating, not whatever they were before. Live in the present.

      I know it’s not the same, but people mature, want different things at different stages in their lives and work towards those things when they realize their value. I was a horrid High School student. I did barely enough to get decent grades, but I was a good test taker, always scored well (often near perfect and at least three perfect) state-wide end of year exams, and got a great SAT score (test in the US university use as a predictor of how well you will do in college, it’s meant to measure your capabilities, you still actually have to do the work to ultimately do well).

      I got into the best state school in my state bc they used those end of year exams and SAT’s instead of my actual grades (which were not good). I took that, felt I was given a second chance, and also, overall it became more important to me to do well. My future was closer at 18 than 14. I became a good student. What happened before, was irrelevant. My priorities changed because what was important to me changed.

      Obviously sexual history is a bit different but, not that much. I never went out and meant to be “slutty” and oddly my values are wholly monogamist. I know men like this too. Are born the monogamous type, but spent their 20′s banging their way through bars, parties, jobs, gyms… Single-mom play groups, etc.

      There are so many personal stories shared here that prove, everyone is different. How they look at, engage in, value sex is different. I just think its important, when you meet someone, to evaluate their personal attitudes and values. Generalizations can cause you to cross someone off your list who could have been… someone really great for you.

      In regard to men having a Marlon Brandoesque sexual past (dude banged his way till he hit the grave!), I don’t know how I feel about this and how it shapes them as boyfriends and husbands, I just know, when a man is ready to settle down, when he wants a wife, he can be…. amazing.

      (I know, I’m jabbering, addressing a few of the comments here)

      I know my dad’s sexual and romantic past fairly well (yes this is a bit disturbing especially at first but mom gets a glass or 2 of wine in her and she starts spouting things no child needs to know about their parents ). He married his childhood sweetheart – like together since 14 years old- at 24. They decided together, to have an “open marriage” (it was the 70′s, evverryone was doing it). In the end, aka 2 years later, he got dumped bc she was tired of her being an adult while he was playin around. This heartbreak, he never fully recovered from. Spent 15 years a bachelor, banged a ton of women, had his “regulars” but there were always about 3 he kept in shifts. He went to seminars and was part of this cult like group that basically helps you learn that things that happened don’t define who you are, you can’t control them so to move one you have to let them go. He met my mom at 35 (she was 29) she told him, im not joining your harem, you wanna be w me, then ONLY be with me, he agreed, they were married less than a year later and he has never been unfaithful, is a good husband and father,

      So, who knows. I think the seminars actually have some value. They have made a “comeback lately”. Now called “Landmark Education Forum”. Ironically the last guy i dates was a devotee (yah u really do end up marrying ur dad or mom). I could tell from day 1 by the way he spoke. I went to one of their 4-day sessions. It was enlightening, it strips you of the weight of the past we all tend to carry, so you can build the future you want. I’m not like all in but def something to think about.

      Aaaand done. (sorry guys for the verbal vomit, did a bit of purging their)

  12. PostModernSingle

    Sex is important to a relationship. It is not the only factor. It is quite possible to have had better sex with a past partner and be fully committed and in love with your current partner. The fact that you are no longer with that past partner and in a committed relationship with your current partner should be reassurance that you see they have more to offer. A mature, well-adjusted adult should be reassured and comforted that their partner has chosen and continues to chose them, regardless of if you are their first or fortieth.

    There can be something very special about knowing someone has experience and chooses you not because you are the only thing they have ever known but because they do know what else is out there and think you’re special. There can also be something special about having both only ever known each other that intimately.

    Someone’s sexual history does not create insecurity in his/her partner. If you are insecure, it is your problem and not your partner’s fault. You will find reasons to be insecure regardless.

  13. got an email from a reader recently asking me how to tell if you’re dealing with a slut or a psycho. it’s something i need to think about before posting.

    i HATE thinking about posts. it WILL get posted though.

  14. PostModernSingle

    The best sex of my life was with my first partner. We were together seven years. It was also an abusive relationship. It took me a long time to realize it was abusive largely because it was the only relationship I had ever known.

    My measuring stick when picking partners now is not about whether or not he is better in bed. It is about finding a loving, considerate, respectful man that I love and who loves me. Maybe the sex will be better, maybe it won’t.

    I hope my future partner will understand that I think he is a better man and a better partner than my ex whether or not I think the sex is better.

    My story may be an extreme but I believe it is one of many reasons why admitting the “best sex of my life” was with a past partner is not the same thing as saying I look back on a past relationship with longing or that I am more likely to be unfaithful.

  15. pon

    a girl ganging 1 guy in a 100 postitions is better than a girl banging 100 guys in 1 position
    quality over quantity
    if shes a virgin….truly something speacial that any guy would appreciate esp. for marraige
    why work for something for the long term that has been used and sullyied over an over again
    in most cultures virgins are prefered and expected its just here in the western world is different

  16. Doc

    “should be reassured that you see they have more to offer.”

    That really shouldn’t assure any man – I’ve have more than my share of sex with married women who are married to him because he had more to offer than I did. All I had was mind-blowing sex when I was younger – so this way she had his resources and hooked up with me for sex… If that is fine with the guy – okay, but most women leave out that little part of the deal…

    Now… I’m the guy with the resources, and I date only young women (who wants a has-been?) – but I’m not going to do more than f**k their brains out. Anything else is asking to be raked over the coals – this way, I get what I want, and she gets what she wants, and I’m not paying more than she is worth. That is what “equal” is all about – using women, for your pleasure, and not giving them access to your resources… :)

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  18. Ton

    women lie and each time is special…. which on of those statements should we believe?

    if women wanted men with low partner count betas would get more play

    • Emma

      Partner counts don’t matter if a woman is looking for a hook-up or fling. Getting into a relationship is different. You need a guy that you can respect, admire etc. – quite a few women do care about partner counts in this instance.

  19. The frame is wrong. You should be the best offer a girl is going to get. Sex is not about gymnastics and fitness, it’s about dominance and control.

  20. Georgia Boy

    I am game for doing what it takes to keep her happy in general, but I don’t sit around and worry about whether I am my partner’s best sex ever. Her sexual happiness, is ultimately her problem, not mine. If you ask me, this is a form of pedestalization. I do agree that formerly promiscuous women are more of a cheating risk, though, as that fits my experience with women.

    • pon

      sounds pretty whipped mate…you should be their best otherwise shell think odf someone else.she your women therefore your business

  21. Marie

    You make some great points on your blog, but don’t you think that it’s a bit hypocritical that while you tell women that they should remain virgins until they are married because men don’t want some other guy’s sloppy seconds and it is more conducive toward a happier and more lasting marriage, you also advocate men aggressively going after the women that they want to fuck? Do you think that women want some other woman’s sloppy seconds? Or that men having one intimate partner over their lifetime is any less conducive to a happy and lasting marriage?

    Or for you, is it about this is how society is, so this is how I’m reacting to it in radical acceptance? In which case your responses seem almost combative. Do you really want to live in a world where romance, relationships, and sex are a war with women where neither sex can come out on top?

    • Appreciate the compliment.

      I’ve written in a number of places that ideally I think men and women should both be virgins prior to marriage.

      I teach men how to attract women and be able to have a strong emotional connection with them, which grows over time, rather than weakens. That knowledge is largely applicable whether men are actively seeking to seduce numerous women, or to settle down with one high quality women above their looks rating, which I think it ultimately the goal of the vast majority of men.

      I want men to love and cherish women. I want them to be masculine, so that they will naturally attract women and that women will innately want to be with them. At the same time, I think that women should be feminine. I don’t want a war. I want both sexes to live up to what they’re capable of.

      Appreciate you coming by!

    • Marie

      Okay, that makes sense, I completely agree. Seems like I might need to look around a bit more then!

    • M3

      You also need to understand the concept of preselection. Women value a man of promiscuous nature more than virginity. Women are repulsed by virgin men as if they are broken, unable to get with women, unable to perform. A promiscuous man by definition is one who other women have already voted as worthy with their vaginas. Many women prefer the fear of risking bedding a promiscuous man over a celibate one.

      Men want the snowflake who could easily allow herself to be defiled yet no man has defiled. Women want the Man who is capable of defiling every woman but chooses to defile her to the exclusion of all other women.

      Opportunity cost. For a Man to be craved he needs practice and to prove himself to build confidence. For a woman to be craved, she just needs to breathe, smile and bat her lashes.

  22. alphalpha

    This is why we men have such a differentiating standard between AMOUNT OF SEX vs. AMOUNT OF PARTNERS. If you had 1 prior partner and fucked him everyday for 5 years before you broke up mutually and came across me, you’d have been fucked 1,822 times! (I added in 2 days for leap years). Guess what.. NOT A SLUT. If you had 50 partners in 5 years, and fucked them only once, that would mean you had sex 1,722 times less than the lady above but guess what… YOU’RE A SLUT.

    I don’t know about this. I would be seriously careful before committing to a girl who has had a 5 year long relationship. No matter how strong she is emotionally, she is not going to be able to forget her ex. 5 years is a long time – people can get seriously connected to each other in that time. It’s one thing to find out your wife has had more awesome sex. For, you can always step up your bedroom game and have better sex. It’s quite another to find out you are nowhere near ex when it comes to love and deep connection. These are the kind of things that are more difficult to come by than a good fuck.

    • M3

      I don’t have a problem with a woman who enjoys sex within the confines of a relationship to a man who qualified to her and she effectively screened. Yeah 5 years a lot of pounding and I was exaggerating for effect but the point was sound. A woman bouncing from guy to guy to guy is in it for the drug like hit and rush of new love/new romance/butterflies.

      And 5 years is a good track record to show she can weather storms and turbulent patches without bolting. Length of time looks good on a resume. As good as a virgin? No, but better than a carousel rider.

  23. I dont agree with the majority of men. What is the problem with marrying a slut?

    If she has never been promiscuous, there is a much bigger chance that she will want to try that, after she marries you.

    If she has lived out all her fantasies already, she doesnt have any reason to be unfaithful when she marries you..

    I think I might actually PREFER to marry a slut like me.
    In that way, she and I can relate much better to each other too :D

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